United Base Players
At the very top at the page you see the following
“Welcome to Clan [uBp]™ :: Respect, Integrity, Maturity, Honor, Loyalty”
And even on the first page if you scroll down it gives the definitions of all these terms and what they mean. But do they mean anything to the people of this clan? NO
I was invited to join the clan about two weeks ago on the game TrackMania, so i thought it might ba a little fun and did. Everything went ok till a few days ago when i went in for a afternoon of racing and there was a member in there being very rude to a few people that didn’t speak English. The rules of this server clan you must speak English to play which I’m sorry is just nonsense. Why people that speak English think the whole world should speak English and if you don’t speak it them your just worthless just amazes me. I was told that the reason for this rule was there was no way to know what they people not speaking English was saying… Why must we know what there saying? If we cant understand then then what does it matter if there saying a cuss word or whatever. Then in a moment of truth one UBP member said that one day there was someone that was talking bad about Americans in another language. You think so? We tell them that they cant do anything unless they speak English and you expect them not to talk about us? Should have know an American idea was behind this. What really got under my skin was the whole time there setting here arguing about why you must speak English because they might be cussing and we don’t know it, there was someone on the server the whole time with the screen name “Holy_Niger_Shit_Batman” and no one said one word to him the whole time. I’m sorry isn’t that a little…. inappropriate.
“No one in this clan knows what’s going on and all of them think their the leader.”
Which proves my point they didn’t want people in there that didn’t speak English because its like a 10 commandment not to talk about Americans. Everything this clan says they stand for is rubbish. Why Americans and English speaking people feel we must govern and tell the world what they need to do is just non sense. We are one of the youngest countries in the world and we think we have the right to tell everyone how to do everything. That would be more understandable if we was in better shape but honestly America isn’t doing better than most third world countries. The only difference is we act like we are better and put on a better show and fix our cities up so they look better but underneath we are just another country that will die by its own hand. The UBP clan proves that point very well. The English are not comfortable with people that aren’t like us because they might talk about us or they might be better than us… which i think they have a name for this… o yea its call Nazism. And to make matters worse the guy in her changed his mind three times about what the rules was. First he said they couldn’t be there unless they spoke English than he said they could. Then he said they couldn’t. Then when i first joined they told me i should have an r with my tag.. Then some of them told me i shouldn’t then they told me i needed it. No one in this clan knows that’s going on and all of them think there the leader.
Any how a few days later i got back on to let loose and play a little and immediately i was jumped about the screen name i was using which is “jericosystems.com” lol some nerve they have i know. I was invited to play with this screen name and yet all of a sudden this name isn’t good enough for them. So i just left the clan. Honestly i don’t want to be seen with people like that.
Since writing this i have been banned from there server lol. proof that if Americans don’t agree with you… they’ll just shoot you, or something of the sort. :) lol
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May 4th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I hope you had a fun time in the servers while it lasted
I sure enjoyed your company.
Just, never come back again.
kthxbai
May 4th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Its ok. i went out doing what was right so its ok. in the day no one like Martin Luther king or anyone else that stood against the rules either. Plus ill be back. The little block you guys have isn’t bullet proof.
“It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.”
-Voltaire
May 4th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
cpt you are one of the most retarded ppl i have ever seen, i “enjoyed” your brainless company and guess what, i and hope jerico also, will never come back to that retarded place.
May 4th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
LOL yes i agree. no reason to go back there. Found a much better server with people that act mature which is what your clan claims to be.
May 5th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Sure, you don’t believe in our ideas. You’re not the first. [uBp] has been around for years, and we’re still here. What do you think has kept us around for so long? Strong leadership, and strong guidelines by which that leadership runs the entire clan. Obviously without that leadership, the clan would fall. Such is the case with any large organization.
Then there are those few that don’t have the same values as [uBp] does. It becomes very obvious, very quickly. You’re a perfect example. The incident where I wanted you to put your actual name on was not the first, you had sworn in our servers in the past. You were informed that you were no longer a member of the clan, and were told to take your tags. Unfortunately, I was not told of this, and simply took you as a rowdy recruit that didn’t want to change his tags. Silly me, for thinking that someone like you would leave the clan willingly…
I suppose that the issue with your tags should have taken place privately, but personally, I do not believe that I treated you unfairly in any way. I simply requested that you change your name, which you refused to do. It was only at that point that you started to tick me off. When you came back into the server without tags, I decided not to revive the issue.
It was not until later that I realized that you decided to leave the clan, of course after you were already technically out…
In my opinion, it’s goodbye and good ridance. Good luck at any other servers that you find your way to, and don’t ever come back to ours.
P.S. Great spelling in the bolded text
“No one in this clan knows that’s going on and all of them think THERE the leader.”
May 5th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
if you do not like what we do in our servers if it not for you then, i do not need to hear you gripe…you are not the first one that has not agreed with the rules and will not be the LAST! we have been here for years and are not goin anywere soon……i am sorry to hear that you did not like the rules…
I also find it sad that you have to piss and moan about the little things…if you need smothing to cry about please go and find someone who cares….we liked haveing you around, but please if you have smothing to day dont just go put it somewere and expect us to not read it and respond to what you think you have to say…
if you have any other ? about the clan please feel free to emai me personally and i will answer you questions
crazy@clanupb.net
that is my personal email…..feel free to drop me a line any time about anything!!!
crazy
May 5th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Kinda funny [uBp]Cpt.KBK how you make fun of my spelling when look at all the miss spellings your own team member did. But i have to admit least he is nice. You used the i cant spell thing like because i cant spell makes me a bad person and to try to bring me down when your very own team member proved that spelling don’t determine what kinda person you are. Your right though i cant spell, never been able to. Least i don’t judge people by it and what language they speak. With what i have said here i haven’t made anyone come to read this, nor did i tell you not to go read and discuss the other post so if you chose to come to this one post and be upset I’m sorry. Yes the tags should have been handled differently… along with everything else. And if my name was a problem i should have been told i would have to change it when i was invited. Sorry but UBP does not have strong leadership in any way. I wanted to be able to come to the game and have some fun and let loose and you people made it a job. I felt as though every time i came to play i had to do a check list to make sure i haven’t broken any rules and then still worry about getting into trouble by other members that don’t know whats going on but think there the leader. Also the fact you have been around for years don’t make any indication that what you guys are doing is good in any way.
May 5th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
ok i you are attacking the way i spell then you have another thing comming…..i am a very nice person untill you start to attack me….no like i said if you have a n issue you email me…..other then try to be a 5yr old and takein this out of content…..all becuase we asked someone to speak english in our server it that a bad thing…last time i checked our server is in the united stated so you speak english seein that it is the the native language of the united states….if you have a valid reason for starting stuff with my clan make sure you have a better reason then spelling and language…..
IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY TO ME FEEL FREE….
MY EMAIL IS AS FOLLOWS
MLSNOWMANN@GMAIL.COM
May 5th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Who said i was attacking the way you spell. You came here and was nice and i told CPT that when he made fun of the way i spell its like he was saying i was a bad person and clearly you showed him that spelling don’t mean anything about the kind of person you are…. DID YOU NOT READ THE WHOLE THING. In fact i complemented you a few times in my comment and never attacked you once for your spelling. Seems that you may not be so nice. And why on earth would i email you to handle something when everything you guys have handled so far has been very poorly handled. I honestly wasn’t attacking you for spelling and i hope you read the comment again and understand this. But what you did do is attack me saying i needed more than a reason than spelling and language which is exactly what CPT judge me with. Maybe you should leave that last sentence to him.
May 6th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Don’t you guys have better stuff to complain about other than the rules of our organzation? You pay for a server and then you can make up your own rules. Unlike you and your liberal friends, there are some people who prefer coming to server that they don’t have to hear mumbo jumbo, swearing, and people discussing politics.
I have never banned anybody from the server for not speaking english, If they need to say something real quick, they can. Since it is an american server, we ask that you speak english if possiable.
No point in arguing about this, there are thousands of other places you can play if you do not like our rules. You decided it wasn’t the right place for you, good for you, just pick up your stuff and go. Starting a blog about something you VOLUNTEERED to join and were asked to read the rules before you joined, is just immature and i think you just want to have topics for your blog.
Its a pretty good looking site, I wish you well, keep in mind that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Thanks for giving us another place to advertise our family safe servers and community
http://WWW.CLANUBP.NET
(yes we will ask you to speak english, sorry for the inconvience)
May 6th, 2008 at 11:45 am
You say me starting this is immature but i find that since all of you think that this is so pointless and still find time to leave all these comments might be consider immature also.
Last time i looked into it everyone that had a blog was looking for topics to write about… So not sure what your on about there.
yes i did volunteer to join after i was invited and i decided to write about my experience.. So again im not sure what your tying to prove by saying that.
And please feel free to advertise all you want. But i don’t think you’ll get anything from it. If anyone wants a great place to go that is not immature please feel free to have a look at http://www.eas-eliteassassinsquad.com/
From my experience they have done a great job at everything well better than ubp. There doesn’t seem to be that feeling of confusion and not everyone thinks there the boss like you get with the ubp. The rules don’t seem to change with ever which member is online at the moment. And they seem to pay attention more also. Like if ubp would read that post above they would know its not that they ask you to speak English its they way they treated the people that didn’t. From the comment above they still don’t seem to have got that point yet.
May 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
A little lesson in spelling:
“No one in this clan knows what’s going on and all of them think THEY’RE the leader.”
You use the apostrophe to make something we like to call a “contraction.” It means that it’s a shortened version of “They are.”
Just F.Y.I…
I also like how you changed it and got it wrong again, and the fact that you only changed it to prove me wrong
May 6th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
(Just helping you on your way to fame in the blogging career)
May 6th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
lol, and SundayDriver thinks people are going to want to join you after reading all this lol.
(just helping you on your way to fame in the leadership career)
and really i mean since my spelling is all you have on me why say anything. your making yourself look worse than what your making me look. not only does that have nothing to do with this subject it just shows how close minded you are to try to down someone and judge them because of spelling.
May 6th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
He probably thinks Albert Einstein was dumb also because he never brushed his hair. People like this don’t care about anything but themselves and will say anything about anyone to make them sound better. Did you also notice how he is mocking you for your spelling and yet he didn’t give his own team member a spelling lesson. He pretty much made fun and was a smart ass to his own team member just to put you down. What great leadership skills
“Look ma I can spell, but I’m a truly horrible person and I mock everyone to make myself look better” lol
For someone that don’t let no English people talk in the game its not a supprise that he would through the spelling thing up in your face. Imagine what he thinks of them.
May 6th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
I don’t play this game but after reading this I had to comment.
First off I know that Eric should have not posted this online but since it is his blog you can’t really say anything.
And to CPT for you to talk about his spelling is just immature. He never claimed to be a good speller so you can’t say but so much about it. You did however claim to be mature and all those other things which it would seem from your comments alone here that you and the others here from uBp are not anything that your website claims you are. If no one even read this blog at all and only read the comments uBp would come across in a very bad way and that’s no ones fault but your own.
Judging from this post alone Eric is far more mature than anyone in here from the uBp. Not even bad spelling can change that. The only thing that can change that is the members of uBp and it doesn’t seem that you care enough about maturity and all that other stuff your blog claims.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
lol well they really don’t know whats going on. the one guy told me if i had anything to say to contact him but yet left 2 different email addresses. The other guy on here was talking about publicity and he left the uBp website link on here to get people to go there and i had already posted there link at the top of the post so i guess he didn’t even bother to read it he just decided to come here and run his mouth.
May 6th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
THE ONLY REASON I HAVE LEFT YOU TWO EMAIL ADRESS IS BECAUSE I GAVE YOU MY CLAN EMAIL AND MY PERSONAL….YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU ARE GOIN TO TRY TO PUT OUT THERE….AND YES I DID TELL YOU TO CONTACT ME…..IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?
May 6th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
lol see these guys attitude, and they left their link like people are going to be jumping to join them. Once again showing maturity with the all capital letters like a 12 year old. From the stats on my page 5 people have clicked on the EAS link… and 0 clicked on the uBp link. Ashley said it best when she said that you guys ruined your own reputation. Even if no one read the post you guys made a total ass of yourself on these comments.
And yes you did tell me to contact you and yes i did tell you why should i when you guys haven’t been able to handle anything so far.
May 6th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
yes i left all caps, i just find it funny that you attack stuff you know nothing about….all i did was leave a comment the other day, you responded….and then i was out and then you got me back into it……what i find funny is that you want to act like you know everything…. i on the onther hand, yes i do make mistakes in y life, i am not the nicest person in the world, and if you think i am goin to sit here and let you attack me they you know nothing…have i attacked you once yet? no, so i would like to know were you come from trying to talk bad about me? to each and every clan out here the best but you know what ubp also has 211 members and 155 ppl that are recruits… i would like to see how many members and recruits you other clan has….from there home page it says that they have only 11 members…i would like to know the numbers on them…….please feel free to let me know…thakyou
May 7th, 2008 at 12:05 am
i would like to know what name you had while you were with the clan, please enlighten me, thakyou
May 7th, 2008 at 12:20 am
It seems we’ve come to a time were it’s best to just agree to disagree. We think it’s great that you’re giving our clan all this publicity and giving us a bunch of free space to post and talk about how great our clan is while talking about how absolutely childish and ridiculous you are talking down about us and promoting your clan (11 versus 211, not very fair for you) against us. First off you don’t even know how [uBp] works so get your head out of your fifth point of contact and shut up for a minute and listen to what someone who’s ACTUALLY part of the clan and not a founder or an officer has to say. If you have something person against us why don’t you pick ONE of us and take it up with us in email. I’m probably the biggest asshole of the bunch and probably the one that will pick you apart the fastest for grammar and spelling and punctuation. If you want to pick one of my clan members I’m pretty sure that we’ll all end up seeing it and laughing at you. First off, the officers are all very helpful, and any time you have a problem you can get ahold of them day or night and have someone fix any issues that may be going on with you, whether it’s someone hacking on the servers or any other number of issues that you can think of, such as trackmania and where to upload skins and how to build tracks.
Secondly, You were in the clan all of what, 16 hours? What can you really find out about a group of people as big as [uBp] in that amount of time. Absolutely nothing. You then decide it’s a good idea to talk trash about a clan that opened their doors to you and then you turn around leave and spit in their eye with this crap you’re doing on this blog. That’s just childish, what are you five years old? Grow the fuck up. I mean if you’re seriously that annoyed with what happened, you need therapy. I mean if that is the MOST tramatic thing to happen in your life in the past 20 or so years then I’d say you’ve led a sad and pathetic and none the less sheltered life. HERE’s a GREAT idea for you………………. TURN OFF THE COMPUTER and GO OUTSIDE! If you have something you want to say to me reply to any message here and someone can direct you in my direction and we can take this up in an email or whatever and I can bash you a little more thoroughly if you’re up for it. Feel free to insert your sobbing here. Thanks and have a nice day.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:38 am
Reading all posts and the original blog is good reading. Just would like to point out, SundayDriver is a founder for uBp, thus one of the “head honchos,” so to speak. He also joined uBp by playing in the TMN division (which is actually kind of his baby too). For reference purposes, I’m a Server Admin for the clan, and been a part of it, directly or indirectly, since its Tribes 2 creation. So I’ve seen a lot of things occur with this clan.
Moving on, I’m going to focus on the blog itself, and not the comments, as it brings up pointless arguments that detract from the original purpose of the blog: an evaluation of your experience with uBp. However, for references again, someone mentioned that you only belonged to the clan for maybe 16 hours so a qualified opinion and evaluation of the clan cannot be given by you (which you never claim to do either).
First off, the English “rule.” From my understanding, this is a “semi-rule,” and by that, I mean that understanding and speaking the English language is encouraged in the server and clan, but is not a set rule to be enforced. I’m not a TMN player, not have much interaction with the division in that regard. It is stupid, however, that English should be mandatory in the server. But here are the pros and cons of uBp running a server: they (or I guess I should say we..) can create and enforce policy as we see fit as we are the owners of the server. HOWEVER, such a language policy is against the ideas of diversity and shouldn’t be enforced. NOR should individual members be providing their own interpretations of the rules. That is up to the Founders, Division Leaders, and through those two groups, the Master At Arms, who are the “rule-enforcers,” are trained and made to understand the policy and trusted to ensure that said policy is observed in the server. The inappropriate name for a player is a failure, but again, regular members do not have the authority or power to enforce policies set by the clan. All they can be are whistleblowers, and inform an appropriate admin for the server about the rule breaking.
Second, American egotism. For the most part of what little you discussed about it, I would agree with you. I’m an American and we got big egos that the rest of the world frown upon. Some of us would agree, but trust me, I’ve talked to several international students, organizations, and penpals throughout the world and the consensus is: Americans = Egotistical. HOWEVER, do not mistake uBp “policy” as American egotism. It may or may not have played a part, but from your experience, it seems that there was a breakdown in communication and understanding of the rules. And I somewhat already explained the chain of command (Which is Founders on top, then Division Leaders, then underneath, Master At Arms and Member Management Committee, then Elite Members, Regular Members, and finally Recruits. Server administrators occupy a position between Founders and Master at Arms, I’m confused exactly where I stand, mostly because I’ve been with the clan so long and have varying responsibilities at once). Hope this enlightens you about the English “policy,” and feel free to correct me if I misinterpreted your reasoning and understanding.
Third, the “r” tag thing. According to uBp rules, new members are considered recruits of the clan. As such, they are expected to wear an “r” tag after the uBp tag. For example, [uBp]r Snipeye would be a proper method in wearing the tag as a new recruit. I do not know how TMN does it (most likely different), but the policy holds true regardless, there needs to be an “r.” The reasoning behind this is to make sure that those recruits who do want to belong to uBp and make the effort to meet new people, have fun and game, and contribute to the clan, are separated from those who just wish to wear or abuse the uBp tag, or make no effort to the clan whatsoever. A trial period, so to speak. And it lasts for approximately 30 days from the day you join, give or take a week. For you to get it removed, you need to have demonstrated several values the clan embraces, such as friendship and community, responsibility, and honesty. Examples include: checking the forums so we know you are active; being on ventrillo or gaming periodically with other members so we know you like to “hang out” with us, and just wear the uBp tag with pride. Simple. These rules are given to you by the Welcome Letter, which is sent to all accepted recruits, according to my understanding of uBp’s MMC’s policy in accepting and training new members.
Finally, your name. I do not know the situation that occurred with you on the name but I know that it would be considered advertising for a 3rd party in our clan’s servers. This is a policy we enforce so that other players do not use our servers for free advertising and publicity. Evidently, it failed since we’re posting on your blog (which I don’t mind honestly). But that’s the reasoning behind the policy and hopefully you understand. However, if you discussed the screenname with a Division Leader beforehand, you may have been allowed to wear the tag (unlikely, but possible). Again, just going through the chain of command and trying to understand everything and everyone would have helped out.
I do have one request: Could you explain exactly what you meant by this statement?
“The English are not comfortable with people that aren’t like us because they might talk about us or they might be better than us… which i think they have a name for this… o yea its call Nazism. ”
The English are not Americans, and Nazism’s definition is: The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.” The definition doesn’t match your reasoning, except for racist nationalism, which is a stretch. Honestly, a better word may be paranoia; just players being paranoid about others. And that is one thing that is a problem with our clan, and we are trying (and hopefully are) fixing! Feel free to reply in kind. Hope I cleared up some of the confusion and arguments.
May 7th, 2008 at 2:34 am
Funny how you people act like you have everything together yet you don’t even know how long i was in the clan. And honestly Nykon all your comment did was turn everything i said and you disagreed with it.. Whats the point? At least Snipeye comment has some value and meaning. Whats the point of saying i think i know everything when you people leave comments because you think you know better than me? Its great how your people act like im stupid and don’t know what im talking about but yet your constantly coming here and trying to defend yourself. If you guys are having to fight this hard to make yourself look good… why worry about it. go back to the game and worry about your members.
and crazy i had the same name when i was in the clan that i was invited to join the clan in. And has far as my “other clan” i don’t have one. I simply think they have a better server and a better attitude about everything than uBp does. Sorry thats my opinion. numbers isn’t what determines what you guys is doing is right. Hitler had millions of followers, but he wasn’t really in the right was he. Sometimes the majority means that all the fools are on the same side. So stop throwing numbers around here. It means nothing.
As for your question Snipeye about how the English are not comfortable here is my answer.
The English don’t like anything they don’t understand. Nor do they like people that don’t agree with their way of doing things. We both talked about the English ego and sadly with that ego comes a few other things. One is zero tolerance for anything difference. Americans feel that since we are so perfect and brilliant that its just not right for anyone to disagree with us. Americans think that no one should have an opinion that differs from ours.. Kinda like the fact i wanted to write in my blog and uBp hates it and think i shouldn’t have an opinion of my own. America has done some terrible things because people didn’t agree with us. I don’t want to get into this to much her since this is not really what this post is about. This post is about my experience with uBp no matter if you guys think i should have one are not. All i can say is look at some of my older post to find your answer. Maybe click on the government tag toward the top right and look at some of my post about America.
May 7th, 2008 at 2:57 am
Nykon: Why don’t you turn your comp off and go outside. being here is how i make money and i make very very very good money, so i think ill stay
May 7th, 2008 at 3:19 am
That does clarify what you mean up pretty well. However, don’t forget that in Hitler’s Nazi regime there were innocent people who just believed in nationalism, not fascism (which is the general form of government Nazism is). It’s unfortunate you’re own experience was so negative, but there are others who have wholly positive experienes. I’m not trying to argue that you were wrong, how can I argue your own personal experience with the clan? I’m not you, but you’re not me either. I just wish to clarify some of the misunderstandings that occurred between you and the clan, and vice versa, and your blog readers understand that this is not a general outcome or sequence of actions, but a rare anomaly that somehow slipped through the cracks. Additionally, alot of the uBp members are just reacting against you in a defensive manner as they took your comments personally as a slap in the face against them and the clan they belong to. And these same members may not be the ones that gave you such a hard time originally, but are those that I kind of alluded to with the innocent Germans under a totalitarian regime: they take pride in who they are and who they belong to. Though I can already see an argument against my reasoning, my point is (and I don’t think you do): Don’t take these comments personally as its a defensive reaction against what we may perceive as an negative attack against not just the clan but ourselves.
BTW: Hitler’s rise to power wasn’t entirely the German’s fault nor a case of evil rising unchecked. The armistice and peace agreements created under World War I by England, France, Italy, German, USA, and Japan were harshed and severely punished the German people and that resentment helped fueled a fascist state to rise in Germany. So the Allied Powers were partly to blame. In the 1930s, when Hitler began to covet more land and military power, he initially took over Czechslovakia with England and France agreeing to it (PM Chamberlain was the one who “negotiated” this peaceful transition). So really, Hitler’s rise to power and the mass destruction World War II created was not just a case of maniacal power and extremism, but a passive defense that didn’t even attempt to correct the problems. With uBp, if there are problems that exist, it’s because someone, recruits, members, or DLs, are not speaking up about them to get it fixed. And to be honest, uBp is a large organization. The fact that I don’t know who you are is a testament to my statement, and those of us higher up the totem pole don’t always interact with others, especially the newer members or those that belong to separate divisions. So it isn’t as harsh as you make it out to be that everyone doesn’t know everyone else. It’s hard enough to know who the Founders, SAs, DLs, MMCs, and MAAs are for me, complicate that with the 150+ regular members and recruits. It’s pretty much memorizing everyone in high school within a week for me (that is, IMPOSSIBLE almost).
May 7th, 2008 at 3:49 am
OMG someone in this clan makes sense.
And true about Hitler but there are plenty of other… not good people that had plenty of followers. Please don’t lecture me about Hitler also, im well qualified in his history. im sure you know what i mean by what i said, no need to get all detailed about it. There is plenty of other people i can use besides Hitler. But thanks for the comment.
Your right im not really taking any of this personally. Its just an opinion and thats all. Glad to see you notice this. I do ofter have a very different opinion than anyone else has im sure you will see if you glance around on this site. But thats what makes people come here. I may not be a great speller but what i am good at in business. I started my own company when i was only 17 and its done great. Even though uBp may be large its still something that can only go so far.
Want my final opinion has a business man? Here it is.
Pay attention to what your own website says. you clam maturity and all these other things but at the drop of a hat most of the commenter’s here trashed that to put someone else down. That alone is enough to prove everything i said in this post. Everyone from uBp had the chance to prove me wrong and make uBp look great but they failed to do it. So when you come here to argue and defend yourself you will never win because your only defending against yourself. It was you that made you look bad not me. This is not talking about anything that has happened but for whats happened in here. So next time someone says you don’t go by your morals think twice about trashing them to try to prove them wrong, it wont get you far.
May 7th, 2008 at 4:05 am
The fact that we can have courteous and reasonable dialogue; is this not the ideal that uBp is striving for? And don’t forget, we say mature behavior, but a majority of members are under 18. I’m not trying to make an excuse for my peer’s poor behavior, no. But surely you can understand that a teenager’s patience and maturity can be stretched only so far in the face of adversity before an unreasonable reaction occurs.
Respect, honor, maturity; these are ideals the clan embrace and do our utmost to follow. But again, we’re not perfect. It’s the same thing with religion, with craftsmen, etc. We try to perfect ourselves by following and believing in an ideal, a standard. There will be times when we may fail and trip, but they serve as learning experiences.
Just out of curiosity, how long were you in the clan and did you try to communicate your confusion with the Division Leaders or on the forums?
May 7th, 2008 at 4:07 am
Oh, sorry about trying to argue with historical references. I’m a history person too and was taught to plan for the future, we need to evaluate our past and learn from the mistakes we made then.
May 7th, 2008 at 4:26 am
lol its ok. a little argument never hurt anyone lol. and i agree we do need to learn and we should be able to. but human history also has a pattern of repeating itself. We start out with good intentions but has time passed and our ego grows we fall into the same mistakes.
i was in the clan a little over a week. and the person that was in the clan that first day acted like he was the leader so i didn’t bother going to the site. I just got used to venting here i guess. maybe not the best of things i know.
Im not a big history nut but the two people that have intrigue me most in history is Hitler and Stalin, so I have done all my homework.
and i know what you mean about your peers but to throw away what you stand for while trying to prove you uphold it isn’t the best of things
lol. you however have been great to talk to and i really hope to hear from you more.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Wow that was a lot to read this morning! I am glad you found a good home at EAS, they are allies with us, and I personally help setup their server, so I am good friends with their leaders. Their team is 18 and not quite so large so you may not find the SAME problems you would at uBp.
Glad you two history buffs agreed to disagree.
Coincedence only, but while this discussion has been going on, we have been discussing removing the bans from all of our servers. This means people who have been proven hackers or trouble makers time and time again, will get yet another chance, but I am 100% sure there are soem people banned wrongfully who can feel vindicated also. This is something we havent done int he 7 years or so the clan has existed. Its a small step, hopefully in the right direction.
One thing this blog has proved is your point about too many cheifs and not enough indians. So to all uBp members I am asking you to suck it up and let it go. There is nothing for us to prove here except our own faults. To clerify I do not want to see another post here flaming anybody or defending ourselves, I would say no posting at all, but that may seem nazi-ish lol.
GL in RL with your growing company, if you continue to race for EAS, than we will undoubtly cross paths again, maybe in a friendly comptition. Hopefully we can enjoy the games for what they are meant to be; fun and enjoyable.
Thanks for your evualation of our team, we will use it to try to correct things that we obviously need to work on. See you around Jericho.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:42 am
if you had the same name, then y are you so resistan to telling me it to me? that is all that i was aslking…..did you say smothing when you left that you do not want to see have posted in your blog here? i love how you are ttying to mek this a onesided scene, when a number of my fellow clan members, admins, users etc have come in here and tryed to have a decent converstaion with you….i am sorry that you seem to feel that everyone of use is out here to get you….
So i ask of you once agine, what was your clan name?
May 7th, 2008 at 11:49 am
and due to sundays request i will no longet be posting in this blog, best of luck to you in your REAL LIFE adventures, some time you sould go to walmart and buy the 10$ game we all play called call of duty and come and have some fun in our servers…..other than that…have a good one i am out of here…
May 7th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
and i also love how you came here to attack me one more time then said you wouldn’t be saying anything else. And Sunday didn’t tell anyone not to post on this blog. i see you pay about as much attention to what sunday says than what i say. The name i signed up to the clan with was EricHamby. my name on the game is JericoSystems.Com and you know this so i don’t know what this is going to do. Most of uBp members came here and attacked me… not to have a decent convo with me. The only one infact that did try to have a decent convo is SnipEye.
PS. now that you got my name when you look at everything and see i didn’t do anything wrong or say anything out of the way. You can come back here and take your little smart ass comment back from above about me not wanting people to know what i said. if i didn’t why would i post this?
Members like you are what makes this post true and people see that. I hope Sunday sees this and says something to you also which if he is standing for anything… he will.
And for your information if i was trying to make this one sided i would have wrote the post and turned commenting off so no one from uBp had a chance to defend themselves. You honestly need to grow up above all others and see whats going on around you.
Sunday….. Crazy is the perfect example of why i left. Crazy has none of the traits that uBp stands for.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
From reading your posts, and the rules they have on their site. It appears that you broke a rule from the get go. When you register, the name you register with IS and ONLY IS the name you’re allowed to use, unless you request a name change. By registering to be a member as EricHamby, and not using that name in game, you were breaking that rule. Also, under the conditions of joining, if you’re told to change your name by a higher up, you’re required to change your name.
Also, from the trackmania division’s webpage, it appears the rule about English speaking is purely a guideline. They desire for English to be the main language used, as their server is intended for North American countries, most of which speak (natively or as a second language) English. The members are allowed to warn people, but the main idea is that you’re allowed to talk in your own language to friends if they do not know English. This is only allowed for small amounts of your overall conversing.
All this information is based on that posted from their own websites.
May 7th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
you sound like Crazy to me.. you talk about me wanting to hide stuff and yet you turn up here under anonymous. Since the name thing was a big rule i should have been told when i was invited that i would have to change my name. I thought since i was invited with one name i never thought i would have to change it. Who invites people to join them and then ask them to change their name? AND FOR THE LAST TIME ITS NOT THE FACT THEY WANT PEOPLE SPEAKING ENGLISH ITS THE WAY THEY TREATED THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN’T. I am so sick of people coming here just to attack me without reading whats going on. So anonymous your comment is completely useless. not only did your comment about the name change mean anything but your comment about the English isn’t even what this post is about. Also since they have told me a few times that i have no right to say anything because i only spent a short time in the clan, without knowing who you are and if your in the clan means that you taking up for them is pointless and they could care less.
May 8th, 2008 at 10:15 am
36 comments lol. Its a shame you got to piss people off before they will say anything. The only posts on my site that have any comments are the ones that piss people off. If America would get pissed at out government for once and decide that they have had enough wow America would be such a better place to be.